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When the momma bears get angry

27 Sep

Holding hands

For me this picture symbolises the instant connection that J had with a young trans guy recently.  Who knew that such a short time later I have watched in horror as this young one and his mother, like so many other loving mothers, have become the target for anti transgender ignorance.

A while ago I saw a post from a fellow momma, her precious child O was struggling and she was looking for a solution.  Unlike Jeremy, O was not yet into puberty.  He was worried that people would notice that unlike other boys, people would notice that he was missing a bulge “down there”.  Let me draw a parallel – if as a parent you have a) searched the shops looking for Elsa knickers or a purple sparkly top b) that toy that everyone else is getting for Christmas c) spent hours online looking for the perfect absolutely whatever it is your child has expressed a desire for; you will understand that on occasion your child says something that strikes a chord with you and you will go to the ends of the earth to help satisfy that wish.

So when this fellow momma reached out about O’s desire many other mommas sprung into action.  One momma has sent a few prototypes for trial. Jeremy and Lockie put their creative brains together and developed a quick yet simple and washable solution to the lack of penis bulge that even the momma involved said she could put together and the momma reached out to Den and TranzWear in the US who said he would try and help.

A story was then publicised about this issue with the help of Ginger Gorman, a journalist who is working hard to raise awareness of the issues of transgender youth in Australia.

Now, in the last 24 hours this little transphobic piece popped up (San Francisco company selling “packers” for trans boys, ages 4 and up) which has resulted in hate mail and a death threat to Den and some abuse heaped on Ginger basically for promoting pedophilia.  So the angry momma bear has awoken.

I had the privilege of meeting a terrific young trans guy of a similar age and his mum last week, two beautiful people, a little one who confided in J that he was worried that people will not like him in high school, a momma who is walking in my shoes.  Two hours flew as we talked about so many things and I felt that I had met a long lost friend.  So today when I saw the snide implications that her actions, like so many other mothers, in procuring a packer and stand to pee device for her child was somehow (with murky implications) linked to pedophilia I saw red.

Den’s website TranzWear has an 18+ warning on the front page.  When I first visited the Peecock products page I had a reaction, I saw lots of phallus shaped objects in various colours, in a quantity that I had only encountered in certain shops in Fyshwick in the ACT.  Did that stop me looking as I helped my then 16 year old son to chose a stand to pee device?  No, because I knew what I was looking at.  I was also a grown up who knew that the device was to be used for my son to pee, and wise enough in the ways of the world to know that an STP is a pretty useless device for sexual gratification.  Because that that is the dangerous parallel that is being drawn at 4thWaveNow – that STPs and packers are being given to children so that adults can get sexual gratification.  Let’s name it people, and not hide behind euphemisms.

Here is my truth.  Transgender boys want to look like their peers. They are acutely aware that they lack a little bulge in their pants.  Caring and supportive parents will recognise that and do what they can, from crocheted bird seed filled cylinders to more sophisticated inventions that stay put, can be worn while swimming, can be popped in a washing machine, these are testament to the love that parents have for their child.  Post puberty there are a range of devices that enable trans guys to stand at a urinal to pee, like every other guy.  It helps these boys get through the day feeling a little safer, a little closer to how they see themselves.  It does not solve the deep down desire for a penis that can only be achieved by surgery, and not always successful surgery at that.

What Den at TranzWear did was try and help a momma.  That’s it. He is one of a few suppliers that a parent could turn to and receive support.  A death threat was unwarranted.  He has done nothing wrong.

So may I ask a favour?  Please spread the word.  Spread the word about Den and TranzWear.  You may help a young person take a step towards being comfortable with themselves.  Spread the word that STPs are cool when you want to pee and you don’t have a penis.  Please send anyone who mistakes an STP for a sex toy to me, by the time I have explained the difference they won’t make that mistake again.

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193 responses to “When the momma bears get angry

  1. jay

    September 27, 2015 at 12:19 pm

    you rock.!

     
  2. GallusMag

    September 27, 2015 at 3:10 pm

    Reblogged this on GenderTrender and commented:
    For everyone asking what sort of parent would ever defend and lobby for strap-on dildos designed and marketed to four-year-old girls. Here they are! Read the agony of mothers in the stagecoach era forced to haphazardly “crochet bird seed filled cylinders” for their four-year-old children born female. Read how President George Washington’s “affirmed” nephew bore a roughly hewn wooden penis throughout his girlhood. Read about the conundrum of children who simply want to pee but don’t have a penis. Read how dildos for toddlers are “a testament to the love that parents have for their child”. Read about how providing a four-year-old female with “a bulge down there” is like “searching the shops for that toy everyone else is getting for Christmas”. Read a post that contains the word “Momma” thirteen times. Enjoy!

     
    • oopster74

      September 27, 2015 at 3:54 pm

      Gallus Mag is a shameless teller of anti-trans propaganda and lies, and can’t even leave a 4 year old child out of her petty muckspreading. You should be ashamed of your behaviour Gallus Mag!

       
      • Errol Mcinnes

        September 28, 2015 at 1:38 am

        Linda Shanko has no shame, she has nothing better to do than work diligently to destroy lives, and leave nothing but damage in her wake.

         
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 7:56 am

        Who’s Linda Shanko?

         
    • carolmoore

      September 28, 2015 at 3:47 pm

      Why aren’t these parents teaching these kids you can be yourself – even if it’s not a typical boy or girl – without trying to become the opposite sex? Are they afraid their kids might be gay and would rather have a child of the opposite sex than a homosexual child??? Or are they just so indulgent they’ll give into any childish momentary whim and then encourage and even force the kid to live up to the whimsical image even after the point they’ve tired of it. Just so no one will think there kid is a homosexual? Or whatever? Seems like bad parenting to me…

       
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 4:55 pm

        Simple answer – no. I’m trans, I consider myself to be a lesbian. I know other transpeople (mtf and ftm), some are heterosexual, some are gay, some are bi. Your gender identity is something completely different to your sexuality or to put it another, your skin colour has nothing to do with your sexuality – it’s more obvious that skin colour and sexuality are not related, but some people think gender identity and sexuality are the same thing.

         
      • Turtle Beanz

        September 28, 2015 at 10:27 pm

        Thank you, oopster74. Perfectly said.

        Trans kids are trans. That’s all you need to know.

        And frankly, it is tiresome for parents fighting a very, very difficult battle *on behalf of* our kids to have to keep defending ourselves against accusations that we are doing something *to* our kids.

        50 years ago you would have asked why these crazy mamas were making their kids gay.

        What you are really saying when you ask such a question is that you do not understand what it is to be transgender and you’d rather the kids be something else. And if they can’t be something else, you’d rather have someone to blame.

        The ones you are blaming are generally mothers. Mothers stick around even when kids turn out to be a way that the culture is intent on misunderstanding and misrepresenting. And then mothers become targets, just as they did as the culture was coming to understand “homosexuality,” Schizophrenia, Autism. Find a way of being that a culture does not understand — there, too, you will find mother blaming. Which, by the way, is sexism.

         
      • Tam

        September 28, 2015 at 11:37 pm

        We ARE teaching or kids that they can be themselves. That’s the whole point. This isn’t about gay, kids this young don’t have a sexuality. But they do have an identity! This isn’t about indulging a whim. This comes about after months or years of crisis and therapy. Bad parenting would be to ignore or shame them. Parenting that denies a child his/her identity may as well be a death sentence. Please respect and love our kids. They already face so much adversity. Support us parents. If you haven’t been there, you have no idea the conflict and heartache that we face.

         
    • above the hemline

      September 28, 2015 at 11:39 pm

      Young children innately know who they are, and what body parts they would like to have. It’s no comment on parenting. Simply, this mom recognizes agony, and is sparing her child as much angst as possible. Please don’t sexualize children. They don’t look outside themselves to know any better than “Why are people forcing dresses on me? Can’t they see who I am?” The bottom line is Why The Fuc$ Do You Care? If you care so much what is in children’s underpants, I will go out on a limb here and say, quite possibly, it is you with the problem.

       
      • Turtle Beanz

        September 29, 2015 at 12:49 am

        Thank you, above the hemline. Quite right, totally humane, and yes why are these people so very worried about what is in children’s underpants?

         
  3. genderwipesthefingerprints

    September 27, 2015 at 3:43 pm

    Reblogged this on Stop Trans Chauvinism.

     
  4. Sine Rose

    September 27, 2015 at 4:50 pm

    You should be ashamed of yourself if you support serving girls up to paedophiles by putting a bulge in their pants. What is wrong with people? What proper adult notices or cares if a child has a bulge?

     
    • totallyterrifictigerista

      September 27, 2015 at 5:39 pm

      Point is, had you read my post, that it is the child who frets. Gender disphoria is very real. Nothing to do with adults preying on children. Get educated.

       
      • Sine Rose

        September 27, 2015 at 6:41 pm

        Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder and should be tret as such, instead of being indulged. Same as body integrity identity disorder (when people want to remove a healthy limb). Wake up – you are the one who needs to educate yourself.

         
      • totallyterrifictigerista

        September 27, 2015 at 7:11 pm

        I have my sons mental health team, psychiatrist, psychologist and paediatrician, all of whom support the use of STP’s by the way, to educate me. I’m not keen on your education.

         
      • Sine Rose

        September 27, 2015 at 7:45 pm

        Most psychiatrists are in on the new transgender agenda craze – they make money from it. It is all over the media too, programming the young (and adults) to want to mutilate their bodies. You parents who feed into your childrens mental illness are the worst. You really should be ashamed of yourselves. You aren’t going to change my mind with your propaganda, get over yourself.

         
      • totallyterrifictigerista

        September 27, 2015 at 8:18 pm

        The protocols for the medical profession supporting transgender children in Australia are strict and not defined by fads.

         
      • Sine Rose

        September 27, 2015 at 9:22 pm

        You’re an idiot. I said I wasn’t going to be swayed by your propaganda. Get a life.

         
      • totallyterrifictigerista

        September 27, 2015 at 9:36 pm

        You are commenting on my blog, I’m not trolling you. I have the right to reply when you walk into my world.

         
      • Sine Rose

        September 27, 2015 at 9:38 pm

        I never accused you of trolling LOL. Get over yourself, I don’t give a fuck if it’s your blog. I will point out when people are wrong and hurting others wherever I see it. If you can’t take it, delete or block me.

         
      • totallyterrifictigerista

        September 27, 2015 at 9:39 pm

        I’m accusing you of trolling.

         
      • Sine Rose

        September 27, 2015 at 9:40 pm

        I’m not trolling, I’ve researched both sides of this issue. Have you?

         
      • oopster74

        September 27, 2015 at 10:51 pm

        Really Sine Rose? Really? Or do you just blindly agree with everything the anti-trans movement says?

        You know what I tell anyone thinking about transitioning? I tell them about the shit they’ll go through, the bigots who’ll make their life a living hell, I’ll tell them not to do it, and then I’ll tell them again not to do it, and if they still go ahead and transition afterwards, you can bet that it’s going to be an improvement on how they were feeling.

        Stop telling other people how to live their lives and get on with living your own.

         
      • Sine Rose

        September 27, 2015 at 11:41 pm

        Like I said, I’ve researched both sides of this issue. Have you? I doubt that any of you who are all for pandering to mentally ill people and paedophiles, have. You’re all brainwashed by the mass media lgbt celebration and it’s disgusting.

         
      • eXXcellent

        September 27, 2015 at 11:54 pm

        I guess your kid is lucky she doesn’t think she’s a dog since you’d probably get her a collar and make her sleep in at the yard.

         
      • markangelo64

        September 28, 2015 at 4:57 am

        I would advise you to do the research talk to trans individuals who the story did not end so well for. Listen to some of these interviews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAdZbr1yJ9g

        You believe you are doing right by your child, when in the end you are not. These trans advocates are sick individuals who are pushing their agenda and using children to do so.

         
      • Tam

        September 28, 2015 at 11:43 pm

        Research both sides all you want. Until you EXPERIENCE the heartbreak in a loved-one, please refrain from judging. (And if you truly did your research, you would understand that packing has as much to do with pedophilia as buying little girls dress-up clothes.)

         
    • above the hemline

      September 28, 2015 at 11:43 pm

      Try putting a cis boy in a Hello Kitty bathing suit. It ain’t gonna happen. Why can’t we look at gender identity as something akin to being left-handed? or far-sighted? or red-haired? Can’t we celebrate the unique spectrum of identities in children? If you don’t know any trans kids, just STFU, and try this rare thing called empathy.

       
      • Turtle Beanz

        September 29, 2015 at 12:51 am

        Can I get an amen and a hallelujah for above the hemline? AtH, you rock!

         
      • markangelo64

        September 29, 2015 at 1:11 am

        No one is saying don’t allow your child to express themselves, in fact please do. Where it gets strange and weird is when you start feeding into the gender system, filling your child up with puberty blockers and cross sex hormones and now this, a packer, a dildo, really people. As an adult once trans identified I used a packer for 2 months and became grossed out by the sweat and bacterial build up from wearing it. 80% of gender non conforming children grow up to be happy adjusted adults in the gender they were born as. There is no need to mess them up further so they can fit societies neat little box.

         
  5. ex home birther

    September 27, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    I always assumed people that bought kids brand new things all the time, because other kids have them, were simply rich compared to the rest of us. I guess it is because they have mistaken materialism for parenting. Giving your kids whatever they want simply because they asked for it is not love. It’s lazy and guaranteed to make them unhappy in the long run.

     
  6. splunkydory

    September 27, 2015 at 6:52 pm

    We are told that the penis of a MtF trans child or adult is “female” simply because the person who owns it identifies as such. The “cissexist” claim that “penis is male” is considered transphobic and literal violence against trans women.

    A girl or woman is called a TERF and a bigot if she expresses discomfort seeing, and being seen naked by, a trans person with a penis in her locker room. All of society is expected to accept and respect the penis of a trans woman as a female body part.

    Yet for trans boys, their lack of a penis is seen as a major problem. Why isn’t the same reasoning used to declare their vulvas “male?” Why do trans boys need to conform to society’s ideas about how boys look, while trans girls and women are encouraged to “broaden the bandwidth” on what it means to be female? These two approaches couldn’t be more polarized.

    So why isn’t the vulva of a FtM trans child “male” simply because the child identifies as such? Why the double standard? I can only come up with one possible reason: misogyny.

    Of course a penis is whatever the owner says it is; that’s the privilege penis-owners enjoy. But those of us who don’t have a penis, whether we identify as cis or trans, are, as always, less than.

     
    • totallyterrifictigerista

      September 27, 2015 at 7:09 pm

      I embrace this idea, as does my son who has said that he may never go down the path of surgery. So that’s happening, well from my vantage point it is. TBH Jeremy’s STP was purchased during our early days when it was very important to him. I have no idea if it ever sees the light of day so to speak two years on.
      But shops like Leolines which sells specialised underwear for young transgender girls have a booming trade for the sane reason mums go looking for packers and STP’s – little kids just want to fit in. And mums will do what they can to help kids feel like they fit in.
      I hope one day the world will see past genitals when it comes to gender, that’s a safe world for my son.

       
      • Parish

        September 28, 2015 at 1:55 am

        You need help and fast. Not your child…YOU. Go on…go get a therapist and get yourself some meds. Seriously. And while you at it take this shit down. Thanks..Bye bye.

         
      • markangelo64

        September 28, 2015 at 5:00 am

        You mean your daughter. Your daughter is facing neurological impairment, body dysmorphic disorder, she is in the right body, trust me, many of us thought we were plagued and defected. That is not true. http://www.transitionradio.net

        We are meant to be the way we are masculine women or feminine men, nothing wrong with our bodies.

         
  7. oopster74

    September 27, 2015 at 8:14 pm

    Sine Rose, you’re assertion that the medical profession is involved may wash in the USA, but not in the UK, where we have a responsible health service that treats those that need medical help free at the point of need, not at the issue of a credit card. This mother is doing the best she can for her child, a child she has lived with and known since birth. Who are you to question her parenting skills?

     
    • Sine Rose

      September 27, 2015 at 9:25 pm

      That’s more propaganda. Health care is fucked up all over the world, you would know that if you educated yourself. Instead you seem to be buying into the lgbt agenda. This mother is doing her best to feed her childs mental illness, and I have every right to question that.

      People, educate yourselves about paedophilia if you are so blind that you can’t see what this “bulge for children” sickness is doing.

       
      • oopster74

        September 27, 2015 at 9:37 pm

        The NHS is propaganda? Trust me, the NHS budget doesn’t stretch that far.

         
      • Sine Rose

        September 27, 2015 at 9:39 pm

        You’re definitely into the propaganda if you believe what mainstream media is telling you. If you’re too stupid to get that, then we’re done talking :).

         
      • oopster74

        September 27, 2015 at 10:21 pm

        The NHS doesn’t do propaganda! The NHS treats the sick as best as it is able to based on the best current medical viewpoint. When I had a heart attack I was rushed to hospital, taken into surgery, was supported through months of rehab, and not once was I charged 1 penny. The NHS is not perfect, but it’s the best health system available. Propaganda is what governments and other corrupt organisations.

         
      • Sine Rose

        September 27, 2015 at 11:39 pm

        Governments own organizations. Yet more proof you don’t know what propaganda is.

         
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 7:52 am

        Do some research, ask people about the NHS.

         
      • totallyterrifictigerista

        September 27, 2015 at 9:39 pm

        The “illness” is gender dysphoria. You’ve said that. Now that you are being given rational factual information that differs to your anti transgender agenda you get abusive.
        Thank you for giving others an insight into what you are trying to achieve.

         
      • Sine Rose

        September 27, 2015 at 9:40 pm

        And you didn’t even bother to research the other side, did you? No, not when you can be an attention whore by using and abusing your child. You’re disgusting.

         
      • oopster74

        September 27, 2015 at 10:57 pm

        Ok Sine Rose, educate us on how you would treat kids (or anyone in fact) with “gender dysphoria”.

         
      • Turtle Beanz

        September 28, 2015 at 10:53 pm

        Sine Rose, is it possible that you are drinking a great deal?

         
    • Sine Rose

      September 27, 2015 at 11:43 pm

      Counselling, so that they can learn to love the body nature gave them. You can go on and on about how that “doesn’t work”, but how long do people even try to heal from past traumas before they go and mutilate their genitals?

       
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 7:53 am

        Been there done that. In fact that’s what was done for years before the current best practice.

         
      • Francois Tremblay

        September 28, 2015 at 7:56 am

        Nice to see you oopster, I didn’t know you were an asshole on other blogs too. Defending child abuse eh? Groovy.

         
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 7:57 am

        I’m not defending child abuse. I went through my childhood without anyone to confide in, so I know the harm that can cause.

         
      • Francois Tremblay

        September 28, 2015 at 8:10 am

        As a fan of Alice Miller, I totally agree that children need people to confide in, who are on their side! Not sure what that has to do with the child abuse you’re defending, though.

         
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 8:25 am

        You’re being an idiot if you think I would ever defend child abuse, a friend of mine suffered that when he was 15 and I wish he could have told me so we could do something to stop it.

         
      • Francois Tremblay

        September 28, 2015 at 8:36 am

        Great, but again, that’s really off-topic. We’re not talking about being there for a child or being on their side.

         
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 8:49 am

        This device is not for paedophiles. It is for kids without a penis to feel a little better about tuemselves, it really is that simple. Before I had surgery I was almost paranoid that people could see what is had, when they obviously weren’t looking anyway, but that’s really not the point. This mother is doing what she thinks is best for her child and she’s got the anti-trans mob from gendertrender and the like giving her shit for it. I thought feminist s of all description were supposed to be pro-choice and not impose their will on others.

         
      • Francois Tremblay

        September 28, 2015 at 9:01 am

        “This device is not for paedophiles.”

        I never said it was “for” pedophiles. I said that if you’re thinking about buying this item for your child, you might be a pedophile. Either way, it’s an unhealthy obsession.

        “It is for kids without a penis to feel a little better about tuemselves, it really is that simple.”

        No, it is not “simple” at all. The fact that you call this “simple” reveals the depths of your ignorance. If you asked some questions and thought about it some more, you’d have realized that.

        “This mother is doing what she thinks is best for her child”

        In this entry, she doesn’t say what *she*’s doing, only what other people are doing. I wouldn’t claim to know what she does.

        “and she’s got the anti-trans mob from gendertrender and the like giving her shit for it.”

        Yes, we know you think we’re “anti-trans,” and it’s tiresome. I don’t care if you’re trans or not. It does not enter into my life at all. Trans people are people like everyone else. It’s people who abuse children and impose untested drugs and surgical procedures on children that I have a major problem with. If you don’t preach for that, then I have no problem with you, If you do, then I am definitely anti-you. But I am not anti-trans, and radfems are not anti-trans.

        “I thought feminist s of all description were supposed to be pro-choice and not impose their will on others.”

        Geeze, could it be that you don’t actually get it and that understanding feminism might require more work than just repeating whatever liberal message is popular at any given time?

         
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 9:55 am

        I’m not having this argument with you again when you keep taking what I say out of context. You want an argument, private message me or something.

         
      • Dejah

        September 28, 2015 at 11:05 pm

        My goodness, Sine Rose, you need to let it go. How does it affect you that this woman is supporting her child with love, understanding, and the support of the medical specialists she and her son have definitely visited?

        Read up on the DSM-V definition and clarification of Gender Dysphoria. It is the presence of distress that happens when the sexual organs don’t line up with the gender of the brain. The only treatment that alleviates this is to allow the patient to transition to whatever extent is important for them.

        How the fuck does this affect you? I’d bet good money that you’ve been in the restroom with trans people in the last, and you never even knew.

        Have I studied the other side? Yes, I’ve done my research, and I’m comfortable with the idea that trans people exist.

         
      • oopster74

        September 29, 2015 at 3:05 am

        Would counselling work for me? My body can’t handle sugars properly, or do the quack medical profession would have me believe. Should I learn to accept my body as it naturally is? I mean I feel all drink when I have a full fat coke or Starbucks Strawberry frappocino, but if I could only accept my body for what it naturally is then surely I can overcome this.

        Please not the sarcasm in my above comments if you hadn’t noticed the subtlety of them.

         
    • Sine Rose

      September 27, 2015 at 11:45 pm

      And another thing, why should mentally healthy people have to suffer by putting up with those people in washrooms and changerooms? It’s just wrong.

       
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 7:54 am

        Trans people are not mentally ill, they / we suffer from a mental disorder but it doesn’t mean we’re axe murderers for gods sake!

         
      • Turtle Beanz

        September 28, 2015 at 10:58 pm

        Actually, Sine Rose, trans people do NOT have a mental disorder. Consult the big book of mental disorders, the DSM. Being trans is no longer in there. It came out, just as being “homosexual” came out a few decades ago. You know why? Because being trans is a perfectly normal variation in ways a human can be. Gender is a continuum — and I think in time you will come to understand that the thing that has you so hot, bothered and confused now is indeed just part of the humans are made. Just like being gay. Just like being tall. Just like having curly hair. Normal. And okay. So take a deep breath, Sine Rose. The sky isn’t actually falling. And whatever hate juice you are drinking, perhaps consider a period of sobriety.

        PS You know what is in effect still in the book? A stress reaction to being trans and relentlessly hazed in a culture that refuses to learn a new thing or two.

         
  8. NearlyEnough

    September 27, 2015 at 8:28 pm

    And here we see cis people discussing what is and isn’t good for a trans person. Here we see people ignoring the words of a mother that has tried her damned hardest to accommodate her son through a massive social and medical transition.
    Yes, transgender people use affirming language about their own genitals in an attempt to ease their dysphoria. No, it does not stop the expectations of society taking a toll on us. I needed a packer to be able to enter bathrooms of my true gender and still feel safe, to not be be threatened by idiots with a bashing, or murder, as is the case with so many trans men and women in this world. I was 15 when i transitioned and felt like nothing could be done to make me normal in the eyes of society and the law. So excuse me for coming to my mother with all the information i had on binders, packers, stps, and where to get them, because i needed help, and i thought that she was the best option. She helped me, i picked one out, saved up the then nearly $200 to buy it, and that was the end of it. I use it every time i go out in public, and not a single human being in my vicinity has ever said a single thing about it. Do you know why? Because my genitals are none of their business, and anyone with a single shred of respect, or perhaps even half a brain in their skull, can understand, for even a moment, the ludicrous amounts of anxiety that surround just a simple trip to the bathroom for me.

    So you can all go on about how underage trans boys needing penises is purely and only for the sexual gratification of adults, or you can listen to actual trans people, you can hear their stories of being threated for trying to pee. I’d like to see one time how any of you would handle walking into a bathroom and having abuse hurled at you because you don’t look right, according to them, and have strangers want to reach into your pants before they let you past to use the urinal. Just let me pee in peace, let an 11 year old boy feel comfortable in his body, and stop dwelling on what’s in his pants. Re-evaluate why you think that what’s in a little boy’s underwear that you don’t even know is so important to you, a person that has nothing to do with his life. Leave the people alone that are only trying to help us trans folk, and stay out of our discussions if you have no real point of view to bring to the table.

     
    • totallyterrifictigerista

      September 27, 2015 at 8:32 pm

      Thank you.

       
    • Steve Gray

      September 27, 2015 at 9:38 pm

      “And here we see cis people discussing what is and isn’t good for a trans person” – you mean doctors pushing the agenda and parents enabling it? cause they are ‘cis’. Why would any sane adult want a child to have a ‘bulge’, that resonates with sexualizing behaviour

       
      • Sine Rose

        September 27, 2015 at 9:42 pm

        Thank you for injecting some reason into this travesty of a blog.

         
    • Parish

      September 28, 2015 at 1:40 am

      I’m a transwoman and I can tell you that totallyterrifictigerista is off the hook and so is this packer pushing BS on 4 year olds idea on kids. I hate to see people validate the concerns of Gallusmag. Please for the love of God get some mental help and just stop. Pecker competitions between 4 year olds? Please? Are you delusional?

       
      • NearlyEnough

        September 28, 2015 at 9:44 pm

        it’s not pushing a packer on a child, it’s knowing enough about stp devices so that a child can use the toilet that matches their gender without feeling unsafe. this is not about the parents, this is not about sexual gratification, and the owner of this blog is my mum. she’s my mother and she has done nothing but listen to me, learn from my experiences and the experiences of the trans community that surrounds us in our town and has never once become as inappropriate as everyone is painting her. This whole packer situation is about children feeling comfortable and nothing else.

         
    • toppdyke

      September 28, 2015 at 6:48 am

      Your genitals are real not store bought you idiot obsessed with passing as what you will never be due to your sexist gender nonsense of right and wrong body parts. Stop telling this mom it is ok to brainwash her child into believing a sextoy is an important part of her needs to fix in. You and this mother are sick pervs who can’t let a girl be herself a child who doesn’t need a fake penis to pee. All you are doing is lying to yourself and damaging this girl.

       
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 10:09 am

        This child is trying to be themselves, and has a supportive parent to boot. Do you think this mother wants her child to go through this knowing the kind of idiots there are in the world (as demonstrated by so many ignorant hateful comments thus far). You let the child figure out who they are. I’d guess that there’d be no medical intervention till adulthood anyway, so plenty of time for self discovery and finding out if he’s a he or if she’s a she.

         
      • Turtle Beanz

        September 28, 2015 at 11:00 pm

        toppdyke, TERF much?

         
      • toppdyke

        September 29, 2015 at 12:29 am

        Letting kids be means not getting products and pushing drugs on them for needless gender appropriation and trying to desperately pretend they are of the opposite sex then the reality of what they are. See being something requires none of this cosplay mockery like using toys to pee with nonsense. Terf= simply means I’m a female that knows what being female is and that it isn’t what males say so.

         
      • Turtle Beanz

        September 29, 2015 at 1:06 am

        Well my dear TERFy one, you sound a whole lot like the people who hated gay folks before the trans folks went to battle in the West Village streets, fighting for gay rights and thinking they’d be supported back.

        I’m sure that with a name like toppdyke you’re not a lesbian. A lesbian couldn’t possibly bite the hand that fought for her as you bite the trans community’s hand now.

        Being a TERF means that you don’t understand how interconnected sexism and transphobia are. You will never find transphobia where sexism does not exist and you won’t find sexism without a great deal of overlap with transphobia. Don’t want people telling you how to be a woman? Try staying out of other women’s business.

        How’s this for an argument: Get in the kitchen and make a brother some pancakes. Because that’s what women do. Speak when you are spoken to. And while you’re at it, get me a beer.

        And if you do happen to be a lesbian, cut that out. I don’t think you should be a lesbian anymore. Cuz ew. That’s really gross.

        I’d also like to have more say about what you wear. I’m thinking a lot of pink. If your hair is not blonde I’d prefer you make it blonde. Long, of course. I think you should wear high heels.

        I will continue to work on my list of ways you should be. You continue to work on your list of ways other people’s kids should be.

        And no, nobody is interested in co-opting *your* precious experience. You get to have one woman’s experience — that’s it. You don’t get to have *every* woman’s experience. You don’t speak for me. Your feminism is not mine. Mine has space for people who love and listen to their children, even if their children are different. You know, different like gay people used to be.

         
      • toppdyke

        October 2, 2015 at 9:16 pm

        I don’t need a man telling me shyt about being a HOMOSEXUAL FEMALE you PRICK go pretend in the mirror like any1 believes your lies.

         
      • Turtle Beanz

        October 3, 2015 at 2:20 am

        Actually, TERFYdyke, I’m the mom of trans child. Who I support. Thank you for confirmation that you are a lesbian woman trashing trans people. So much for solidarity, aye? All good when the trans folks are fighting for the gay folks. Glad you have your rights now. Who cares about the trans kids?

        Learn some history, self righteous one. Learn what your life would have been 50 years ago. Learn what it would be today without the courageous trans people who fought for gay rights, until some gay leadership decided trans folks were embarrassing and some very fringe feminist bananas decided they owned feminism and trans people were (quite astonishingly) sacrificing their lives at a rate of about 50% bc — wait for it — they want to co-opt your precious experience.

        Good way to direct queer women’s energy. Brava.

         
      • toppdyke

        October 8, 2015 at 2:20 am

        Oh you are the abusive MOM playing dildo dress up with your daughter for internet fame & to benefit your gofundme nonsense. Please save that love yr child nonsense because if you did you would not be brainwashing her for your personal benefit because you can’t accept a daughter who isn’t girlie. Girls like me are no different then your daughter only we who accept yourself grow up to be self accepting lesbians not male wannabes which is the complex you are giving her no real choice is having when you are buy things to feed into the perverted idea she needs a penis like toy in her pants.

         
    • Nanny

      September 28, 2015 at 1:10 pm

      You DO realize that this happens to gender non-conforming people who are not trans all the time, right? Have you spoken to any butch women recently?

       
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 2:16 pm

        And what if they are trans? Responsible parents won’t and can’t make their kids do anything against their will or that will harm them.

         
    • Adrian

      September 28, 2015 at 5:00 pm

      Packer, or STP?

      I have an honest question about the STP – if the idea is to blend in, to be able to walk into the men’s room and use the urinal, then you can’t put it in immediately before and then remove it to wash after, right? So you wear it all day long? I saw the site linked on gendertrender had a harness to hold it in place, but surely that must chafe?

      (Sorry for the really basic question, I just kinda wonder about the mechanics of it.)

       
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 5:24 pm

        I’ve no idea on that score sorry. I’d imagine that the user wears it all day as you say, and in close inspection, it may not look like the real thing, but most people at urinals aren’t looking at each other’s parts (there’s different “rules” in gay venues).

         
    • Dejah

      September 28, 2015 at 11:11 pm

      How is a boy-child having a normal boy-child bulge sexual in and of itself? If you think that’s sexual, *you’re* the one with the issue.

       
  9. Francois Tremblay

    September 27, 2015 at 11:40 pm

    Little children do not deserve parents who want to give them plastic penises. You are enabling child abuse. I hope you seriously reconsider your perspective and your blog before you actually hurt innocent children.

     
    • Sine Rose

      September 27, 2015 at 11:41 pm

      Exactly! This is child abuse, plain and simple.

       
  10. eXXcellent

    September 28, 2015 at 12:04 am

    10 to 20 years from now, when these kids are adults, we’re going to see an epidemic of parents like you getting murdered in their sleep. When these babies come of age they will come to understand what has been done to them. I hope you snap out of it before then and get it that having a gender non-conforming daughter, who might or not grow up to be a lesbian, is not such a horrible thing. Turning her into something she’s not and can never be just to assuage your discomfort is criminal.

     
    • oopster74

      September 28, 2015 at 9:58 am

      And here we have the crux of the matter! It’s fine for your child to be gay or lesbian, but never trans! Leave her to raise her child how she thinks best.

       
      • Francois Tremblay

        September 28, 2015 at 10:00 am

        “And here we have the crux of the matter! It’s fine for your child to be gay or lesbian, but never trans! Leave her to raise her child how she thinks best.”

        Oopster, first of all, no one said anything about their child. The original author was talking about other parents, not themselves.

        Second of all, a child is not “gay,” “lesbian” or “trans.” Stop trying to brainwash children into gender or sexuality. Children should be free to develop in a natural way, without your meddlesome, perverted beliefs.

         
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 10:13 am

        So bloody leave them alone to discover that by themselves and support them in their choices, that’s all I’ve ever said, but you do know terfs think its ok to be gay or lesbian but never trans, and that’s the biggest pile of horse shit around.

         
      • Francois Tremblay

        September 28, 2015 at 10:30 am

        “So bloody leave them alone to discover that by themselves and support them in their choices,”

        Yea, I agree! So WHY WON’T YOU PEOPLE DO THAT?? Why do you have to brainwash them and then give them unproven medications and surgeries based on how they react to your brainwashing?? Do you even listen to yourself?

         
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 10:37 am

        I’m not doing that. If that’s what they want to do then that’s what they want to do and it has nothing to do with me or you or anyone else on the planet.

         
      • Francois Tremblay

        September 28, 2015 at 10:46 am

        What is wrong with you? No, parents don’t have the right to brainwash their children. Children are human beings and deserve to be treated as human beings.

         
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 11:51 am

        I DIDNT SAY THAT! Jesus, learn to fucking read. Parents are responsible for raising their children and most do what they think is in their best interest now fuck off!

         
      • Francois Tremblay

        September 28, 2015 at 11:55 am

        You fuck off, you stupid prick who supports child abuse.

         
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 11:56 am

        Your ignorance is unmeasurable.

         
      • Francois Tremblay

        September 28, 2015 at 11:58 am

        Yea yea, cut this childish Mickey Mouse crap already. You don’t know how to argue like an adult so you have to pepper us with stupid subjective crap until you take your toys and go home. You ALWAYS do this.

         
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 12:00 pm

        I get sick of repeating myself to ignorant people like yourself.

         
      • Francois Tremblay

        September 28, 2015 at 12:40 pm

        Nice projection, but there’s an obvious solution to your sickness: stop talking to me, and you’ll make both of us happy. And please stop supporting child abuse, if that’s at all possible. The End.

         
      • oopster74

        September 28, 2015 at 1:43 pm

        This isn’t your blog, I don’t support child abuse, you’re an idiot.

         
      • Francois Tremblay

        September 28, 2015 at 10:40 pm

        I didn’t say this was my blog. I’m commenting, just like you. Such a prima donna you are!

         
    • Dejah

      September 28, 2015 at 11:17 pm

      Good lord, this is not something that’s being done to these children. This is parents allowing their children to live the lives the children insist, consistently and persistently, is the right life for them.

      Denying your child the right to live as they are is child abuse. Just like forcing a child to be heterosexual when they are actually homosexual is child abuse.

       
  11. Open minded

    September 28, 2015 at 12:15 am

    Children need to be loved and supported full-stop. 😀 steve gray & sine rose you are so ignorant & clearly uneducated. Did you know that there is a cat on play-school called Diddle? Are you upset that this cat has been “sexualised”?! Lol. Just imagine what young Australians are learning from that?! Maybe one day you will experience something that no one will support you with. People like you lack empathy & maturity – this concerns me. Empathy is instilled as a child. You also seem rather angry. Did you realise you are the stereotypical person who goes on to commit physical hate crimes? You feel you need to attack others whether it is verbal or physical because you are scared of what you don’t understand & this creates negativity. I implore you to take a look into this before it continues & you create a world of hatred in your mind that you need to act out on to satisfy. You need to talk to someone about these issues. Get off this blog. Why are you reading it if you are not interested in this content?? Hmm, it makes me wonder what you are doing here. What your intentions are? What you have googled to get here? If it is not to support, then I would suggest working through your reasons to put-down others might be a good start. What gratification you are getting from this blog? I don’t continue interaction with people who do not have good intentions. Get off this blog, stop enabling your hatred, don’t continue to indulge in these damaging thoughts. Research shows community service helps to instil happiness & feelings of self-worth. This could be a good place to start for both of you. Surely you have some skills that could be of benefit to society? I’m sure you do. You obviously have time for something more in your life that you need to get gratification from. Maybe during your community service avoid working with people or animals though. I think that that would be more detrimental & damaging for others, having interactions with negative people like you & signs already exhibited of something more concerning. Maybe start with tree planting. Spend your time supporting others rather than thinking your words will change their experiences?! Go forth & make good.

     
  12. Sine Rose

    September 28, 2015 at 12:21 am

    You sick brainwashed paedophile friends can stop wasting your time responding to me, I’m finished reading this barf-worthy blog. Hopefully something happens in your life to wake you up to what you are doing, because you are really hurting your children if you support this sort of thing.

     
    • Francois Tremblay

      September 28, 2015 at 7:32 am

      They do seem AWFULLY concerned with their children’s sexual organs… Not in a “is my child healthy” way but much, much more than that… If they’re at the point of looking at “plastic penises” for a little child, then I think it’s fair to call them at least somewhat pedophilic.

       
      • kuu

        September 28, 2015 at 9:36 am

        then you tell the kid “LOL SOL use a sock or something. go find something else to make you happy” or if a 6 year old is crying because they feel like something is missing, does a parent go “stop crying, when I was your age I wanted a pet tiger, and I never got that tiger, and I got over it”

        that is, not child abuse.

         
      • Francois Tremblay

        September 28, 2015 at 9:41 am

        “then you tell the kid “LOL SOL use a sock or something. go find something else to make you happy” or if a 6 year old is crying because they feel like something is missing, does a parent go “stop crying, when I was your age I wanted a pet tiger, and I never got that tiger, and I got over it””

        No, none of that makes any sense. None of this is compassionate behavior or reasonable way to treat children.

        If you think the only options are “tell the child to stop crying already” and “buy the child a little plastic penis to put on themselves” you must be seriously stupid. Like, Donald Trump-level stupid.

        “that is, not child abuse.”

        Well, the sarcastic alternative you gave was LESS abusive than YOUR option, so I’m not sure what you’re whining about, but both are still shitty. How about having some fucking compassion for your child and stop brainwashing them with your idiotic beliefs about gender?

         
  13. Open minded

    September 28, 2015 at 12:28 am

    francois & exxcellent? The same advice goes for you. And your “murder in your sleep” comment is a perfect example of that stereotyped person I discussed. Change your ways, now. This might become you. Identify what is not a helpful thought you are having. The only people damaging children are your comments full of hate as you troll. Find room for a bit more love in your life. This clearly is not the supportive, open minded atmosphere you have been brought up to interact within. Prejudice is not inborn, it is taught. I’m sorry you have been damaged by this. Move along, self- growth is where “people like you” need to start. 🙂

     
    • eXXcellent

      September 28, 2015 at 1:00 am

      Open minded. You are self-righteous and condescending but that doesn’t change the fact that children who don’t conform to their assigned gender flavor are being shoehorned to adopt an identity before they have developed faculties sufficient to understand what may come of oh, I don’t know, being sterilized and genitally mutilated. In my country we can’t drink beer, drive or vote before a certain age. Yet parents (often well-meaning but uninformed and uncritical in their thinking) with the help of the medical cabal, can permanently alter their kids to conform to one of two accepted gender flavors, the one that corresponds to a stereotype for the other sex. Why not just let kids be? Who cares if Suzy’s rough-and-tumble or if little Jimmy likes dolls? Those are both perfectly legitimate ways of doing EITHER male AND female.

      As for my murdered-in-sleep comment, don’t make it out to be something it’s not. No one seems to realize that these kids are going to grow up eventually and that many of them are going to be furious. That’s not me hoping it will happen, that’s me telling you that it will happen. So, ” find room for a bit more love in your life” for these kids who are being permanently scarred and molded to fit into adults’ ideas of how and who they must “really” be before they’ve even had a chance to learn their ABCs.

       
    • Francois Tremblay

      September 28, 2015 at 7:33 am

      I am not out there damaging children’s minds and bodies with this crap, no. Projecting much? Stop blaming us for the evil you’re propagating.

       
  14. Dorothy

    September 28, 2015 at 1:02 am

    As a mother of a daughter who “identifies” as male, I am in the same position as youl. However, I have done hundreds of hours of research on this subject which I couldn’t possibly explain to you in this comment and I have come to the conclusion that not only is this a slippery slope of a lifetime of pharmaceutical poisons that are in opposition to our childrens health, not to mention the unnecessary purging of perfectly healthy organs, but I have also come to the conclusion that this whole trans movement is homophobic and misogynistic!!! You cannot change your sex, period. Accept your body and forget about the patriarchally imposed sex roles that we are supposed to abide by and that’s it.

     
  15. Dorothy

    September 28, 2015 at 2:33 am

    By the way, for extremely important information for parents with daughters identifying as male, I highly recommend the blog 4thwavenow, which has comments and posts from doctors and psychologists who dare to come out against the trans narrative and expose it for what it is. The mother who writes for 4thwavenow is very intelligent and not arrogant or belligerent in any way. She just lays out the facts and analyzes them diligently. Reading the comments by parents on this blog is also informative. It’s at a totally different level that this blog.

     
    • oopster74

      September 28, 2015 at 2:18 pm

      I hope your child is still talking to you when they leave the nest.

       
      • Dejah

        September 29, 2015 at 2:45 am

        I hope her child survives her.

         
  16. lostmarbles2014

    September 28, 2015 at 3:09 am

    Great article. Thank you. I think Tranzwear is offering a wonderful service to transgender adults and children. It is a shame that a small group of extremists have sensationalized this issue into something it absolutely IS NOT: “pushing packers on four year olds”, “dildos”, “sex toys”, “child abuse”, “pedophilia”, “psychiatrists and psychologists are in on it”, seriously? It appears to me that this small group enjoys trolling and creating controversy…

     
  17. kuu

    September 28, 2015 at 9:32 am

    the antis (like evolvefest) don’t want to hear it. all they think is its dildos for babies, and that it goes inside a 2 year old.

    or they are all happy being cis and don’t understand dysphoria or feeling complete.
    because they are super religious and even aginst letting a cis boy have a toy doll

     
  18. lynnacummings

    September 28, 2015 at 4:59 pm

    I don’t know why children need to even know that they need to be educated that they should even know about such things. What child needs to even have a packer? I was born a male and I never once even knew that in order to be considered a boy that I needed to show my junk underneath my pants. Some of us boys don’t have enough to even have it be noticeable. I didn’t really care and the current obsession by some in making sure that their gender non-conforming daughter to have to “look like one of the boys” is absolutely disturbing. What four year old child even cares about such things???

    I used to identify as a transwoman and my husband used to identify as a transman. We see things much differently now and realize that after years of living in the opposite sex, here we are. We know now that denying our sex is useless and no better than a dog chasing its tail. We express our gender in the way that we both feel best suits us. His gender expression is lived out in a more masculine way and mine a more feminine one. That is the beauty of not just being labeled a man or a woman, that is irrelevant to what we really are, human.

    Children need to be left alone regardless of their age and this concept of medicalizing their condition in order to have them fit into a convenient box labeled F or M is ass backwards and putting the cart before the horse. Children, regardless of how masculine or feminine they express their gender should never be rushed into an early transition just because the “feel” like this or that. No, instead responsible and loving parents should not engage in giving their girls the joy of the illusionary experience of having a faux penis, what does that have to do with their sexuality?? Are we to give little boys the equally illusionary experience of having a faux vagina??? How far down this delusional rabbit hole are we willing to take our kids down?? Is it worth it and at who’s expense? The children always end up being the ones to get hurt. Any parent engaging in this practice of giving children a sexed experience that denies their true anatomy is not helping their child and is not a loving response to their gender questioning issues that they may face. Letting your child be who she/he is and loving them is the best option to give them.

     
  19. sharonredwood

    September 28, 2015 at 10:43 pm

    The supplier for these devices is a Japanese sex toy company called Tomax. To access the website, TranzWear has an 18+ warning on the front page. So, there is an 18 year old warning, but the website sells “packers” for girls as young as 4 years of age. No, nothing creepy about this. Why on earth do 5 year old female children need a “packer”? The creepy website says its “Newt packer” is for ages 4 to 8. This is the sexualization of children. There is no reason why a 4 or 5 year old girl needs a “packer” (a silicone penis looking dildo).

    Besides the creep factor, how is this healthy? If the STP (stand to pee) devices aren’t washed out, urinary tract infections, etc. could be an issue. Are girls supposed to wear these all day, and do they wash them out at school? It doesn’t matter if she gets a raging rash and a UTI, or if the “packer” falls out on the school bathroom floor.

    Momma Bear is cray cray….

     
  20. Emmett

    September 28, 2015 at 11:34 pm

    As a young transgender person, myself, I really apprieciate parents like you who stand up for their kids against transphobia. Thank you.

     
  21. queensconfections

    September 29, 2015 at 12:00 am

    My child is 8. My child identifies as gender nonconforming, and is AFAB. My child dresses in more rugged clothing, commonly associated the “boys”, and sports a very short haircut. I have had to provide an explanation to a NY school teacher as to why my child was waiting on the cue for the Ladies Room with me, at a public park at 11pm after seeing a performance. We shouldn’t have to explain what kind of genitals are in our kids’ pants. We should not have to explain why we want to help our kids feel accepted. We need allies. We need advocates. We need moms and dads and people with imagination and money and the courage to produce products that will help our children feel whole and accepted.
    Please do not give up. Please continue to do the awesome work that you do!

     
    • eXXcellent

      September 29, 2015 at 12:59 am

      You were standing in line waiting to use the women’s room with your DAUGHTER because that was the correct bathroom for both of you to use. Your daughter is gender non-conforming and was OBSERVED FEMALE AT BIRTH, not “assigned female” since female refers to her sex, not her gender. Bathrooms are segregated by sex and this is a very good thing. It would be inane and dangerous for you to encourage her to use the men’s room. I hope you understand or come to understand soon, that being a gender non-comforming GIRL or tomboy, is a perfectly legitimate way to do female. Gender, sex-roles, are learned and are so unnatural to so many people that they have to be constantly and punitively reinforced. That’s done to keep the female class subservient to men and the men in line as the oppressor class. No one escapes gender conditioning and it’s unfair to girls as well as boys but females bear the brunt of it. There is nothing that your girl can do or like that is actually “male” because the only entities that are male or female, i.e. sexed, are living beings. Everything else is cultural. Your GIRL’S likes, dislikes, toys, interests and activities are all perfectly legitimate ones for a girl to have. Please stop nurturing a delusion that she must really be a boy. It will set her up for a lifetime of misery or a lot of yarns to unravel and to therapize later in life.

       
  22. Glenn

    September 29, 2015 at 12:48 am

    I am a parent of a transgender child and I support this company and this parent 100 percent. We need these actions and products in our lives and are very grateful! Keep up the great work!!!

     
  23. Adam Lodestone

    September 29, 2015 at 12:52 am

    I was talking today about the tactics and techniques of the Landmark Education cult… er.. ah… sorry… group… and I’ll be darned if the attacks by anti-trans folks don’t resemble the endless senseless harassment and irrational bullying of that not-so-fine exploitative institution. I do wonder how many here on this page have been uhm.. “enrolled”.

    It is absolutely absurd to believe that transgender people are hyper-sexualized individuals or that they are predatory in any way. It is disingenuous to deny that gender and biological sex are different and distinct. It is absolutely uneducated, actually, because there are hundreds of thousands of intersex people in the world who defy the binary altogether and guess what? Some of you anti-trans folks… might be among them and not know it. Odds are rather high that it is so.

    Accusing abuse where this is none is actually called defamation, slander, and libel. I for one cannot wait for the day when a parent of a transgender child takes your asses to court for all of the above and wins, setting powerful precedence for the civil and human rights of families of transgender children. I hope the win is big and the publicity bigger. I hope that it shuts down the ignorant, hateful voices of those who have nothing better to do but dream of themselves as some heroes in some crusade of decency, when in fact, they are anything but.

    It is pointless to try to educate the TERFs and the anti-trans trolls… they are not actually “coachable”. They have lost their ability to feel anything human or humane anymore.

    As evidenced by the VAST usage of profanity when they cannot think of anything else to say.

    Utterly unimpressed.

    This mother and her SON ~ yes, SON ~ are not going to be bullied by the likes of you anymore, even if you keep trying. Did anyone here know that there is legislation going through to make this particular kind of harassment a crime, akin to cyberstalking and cyberbullying? Punishable by fines and/or jail time. AND, if said harassment results in any act of violence being visited upon the one being harassed or if it results in the suicide of the one being harassed OR the suicide of THEIR TRANS CHILD: mandatory jail time. So… keep it up, people, we need more people to go fill up spaces in the industrial prison complex.

    Because it is not enough to request that you behave like a civilized being or act with intelligent compassion… we have to make laws to protect innocent people from your violence and hatred. How do you sleep at night with all of that hate in your hearts?!

    We cannot change this world fast enough.

    Got an agenda? Damn right we do. It’s called Securing the dignity and sovereignty of ALL people.., and first and foremost, the dignity and sovereignty of those actually and truly oppressed by the likes of you.

     
    • markangelo64

      September 29, 2015 at 1:26 am

      @Adam, the only bullies here are those who want to force humanity to accept their reality, a reality that is no more than a condition called body dysmorphia, as well as a mental disorders that is being over looked and swept under the rug.

      Biology is rather simple if you produce ovum and have ovaries and XX for chromosomes you are a female, the opposite is XY, sperm and testicles. Now there is gender expression as there has been for ever, some men are more feminine than others as some women are more masculine and so on. Only during the past 50 years and some really over zealous medical professionals who are rather fund of Eugenics has this crazy notion that a person can swap gender and hence we have the Trans agenda.

      From all the research I have done, the many trans individuals that I have interviewed and having lived my life in the same delusion and transitioned in 2003, I can safely say that this is wrong on all levels. Behaving like civilized people is exactly what we are doing, preventing the train wreck that is in the making. We can ask the same question of you and those of you who are promoting this without looking at other alternatives and seeing the ramifications of it all. Trying to shame those that see this for what it is, is a typical tactic the trans community uses, well guess what, its not working. If you wanted to secure the dignity of all people, you would let people be, and stop putting them into boxes so they can fit in them nicely, just as society wants.

       
    • markangelo64

      September 29, 2015 at 1:34 am

      Using words such as TERF, Transphobia, Trolls, and making those that don’t want to swallow your gender pill, does nothing more than verify exactly what this agenda is all about. Check out some of the interviews I posted above, this is nothing more than an addiction, a neurological impairment being publicized by the medical community to create another source of revenue. Gender Specialists don’t know a single thing about this and how to treat the real problems that are the culprit of GD. The time for truth is now, and humanity will not sit back just because a few of the advocates are pushing this and forcing people to accept the unacceptable. Being PC is not the answer, when these kids start to realize what these parents have done to them, there you know what is going to hit the fan.

       
    • markangelo64

      September 29, 2015 at 1:39 am

      Gender dysphoria is a mental illness with an exceptionally high suicide rate both before and after surgery, and not something to be celebrated.

       
      • Turtle Beanz

        September 29, 2015 at 1:56 am

        markangelo64, so nice for you that you have been saved. i’m confused by your picture. there appears to be at least one trans person in the image. which one are you?

         
      • oopster74

        September 29, 2015 at 2:28 am

        And that high suicude / murder rate is down to the kinds of anti trans comments / behaviour that has been exhibited here so far.

         
    • Turtle Beanz

      September 29, 2015 at 1:46 am

      “Accusing abuse where this is none is actually called defamation, slander, and libel. I for one cannot wait for the day when a parent of a transgender child takes your asses to court for all of the above and wins, setting powerful precedence for the civil and human rights of families of transgender children. I hope the win is big and the publicity bigger. I hope that it shuts down the ignorant, hateful voices of those who have nothing better to do but dream of themselves as some heroes in some crusade of decency, when in fact, they are anything but.”

      Standing ovation, Adam Lodestone. So right on. Thank you for this. May there be such legal precedent set — and soon.

       
      • markangelo64

        September 29, 2015 at 1:52 am

        The fact is that the law suits will come to the WPATH, the AMA, and APA, for allowing this to take place. To all of the cheer leading trans advocates who are promoting this agenda all for their own autogynephiliac needs, taking hostages, and hurting so many without one bit of regret.

         
      • markangelo64

        September 29, 2015 at 2:16 am

        Saved? LOL, I transitioned in 2003, after almost 13 years, many like me realize that we can’t run from who we are. Changing gender solves nothing, I had a full hysto, top surgery, on hormones etc. In the end most realize that Sex is biological and cannot be changed. We all have deeper issues to deal with and they are being over looked. I am Mark Angelo, the one that looks like a guy. But I am a woman, I know that now after 13 years of drinking the koolaid.

         
      • markangelo64

        September 29, 2015 at 2:18 am

         
  24. artguy

    September 29, 2015 at 2:21 am

    Wow, so many assumptions about what parents and members of the medical community are doing to children here…who knew! It doesn’t seem that many of the blog’s critics here are sincerely seeking dialogue, but in case anyone actually hopes to learn about the experience of other people through conversation, I’ll share some observations:

    1. When we as humans encounter things we don’t understand, it’s normal to try to understand them through OUR OWN experiences, because (let’s face it) that’s what we actually know best. So if we ourselves are not transgender, how do we understand the phenomenon??? I would hope that we would try to understand it by getting to know transgender people, since it is in fact THEIR OWN experience. If you truly think a child or teenager is not mature enough to speak to their experience intelligently, please by all means speak with an adult trans-person. That’s a great idea. Ask them when they knew about their identity, what they felt as a child, what they sacrificed in order to live authentically when they transitioned, how it felt…get to know them compassionately. And also please realize that no one person’s experience can speak for everyone else’s.

    2. No, sorry, but no parent of a trans child has EVER thought, “wow, I totally can’t handle having a gay kid (which has become almost mainstream and comparatively accepted by now), so I’ll use my superpowers to make this kid a girl (or boy).” No…simply, no. I speak as a parent with a transgender teen who has gone from being depressed and withdrawn to vibrant and confident in the years since her transition, but also as someone who has come to know many other parents in similar situations, and no parent would push their child into a life of dealing with mean-spirited people who will challenge their very being, insult them, and perhaps even threaten them harm. No, sorry, but parents do not wish extra obstacles on their children. But a caring parent might just be willing to find out that this sense of identity, even though they might not understand where it comes from, runs SO DEEP that it simply needs to be listened to, against the odds. Whatever else that is, it is LOVE.

    3. The medical and psychiatric community is inherently very conservative, and is extremely reluctant to go out on a limb with new treatments that upend established assumptions, not the least due to medical liability (aka monetary self-interest). What does that mean in this context? It means that medicine has done its damnedest to “cure” transgender people of their transgender-ness for many, many decades, and has only fairly recently and VERY RELUCTANTLY realized that their “cure” simply doesn’t work, because being transgender is not in fact a thought disorder, as they had originally assumed. We may not understand why it happens, but it is in fact real. The medical community is also pragmatic; if a treatment isn’t working after DECADES, it thinks, “hey, maybe it’s time to reevaluate our original assumptions.” The medical and psychiatric community has now come to support allowing children and teens to transition to live as their internally true gender identity, not because it’s a hot, trendy thing, but because…it actually works! Many “co-morbid” psychological problems clear up as soon as gender is affirmed, transition reduces suicide rates dramatically (we do care about life, don’t we???), and people become happier and more comfortable in who they are.

    Mommabear, thank you for your thoughtful blog.

    Lastly, I’d also just like to say to Mark and Lynna Cummings that I’m very sorry for your pain at your own life trajectories, which is palpable in your comments here. I would just return to my caution that we must all be wary of totalizing our OWN experience into everybody else’s. I’m sure that the many hours daily that you must spend frequenting a huge array of internet forums to make these points over and over arises from a genuine personal experience of pain and disappointment. But I’m saddened that it turns from personal pain into an attack on caring parents and doctors, and on trans youth, who really, really, really don’t need more shit flung their way.

     
  25. markangelo64

    September 29, 2015 at 2:30 am

    oopster the suicide rates are higher after transitioning

     
    • Turtle Beanz

      September 29, 2015 at 3:04 am

      “oopster the suicide rates are higher after transitioning”

      please document, markangelo65.

      if you can, please account in your calculations for the trans people who kill themselves without ever being able to tell a single soul they are trans.

       
    • oopster74

      September 29, 2015 at 8:03 am

      Have you thought why that might be? After transitioning, at least in the early stages for mtf’s, they are more visible, more prone to abuse, to rejection, to being refused work / housing etc. due to the ignorance and bigotry of small minded people.

       
  26. Turtle Beanz

    September 29, 2015 at 2:38 am

    markangelo64 I am even more confused now. If you were AFAB and then transitioned to male, and then “stopped drinking the kool aid” and realized you are female after all, why (if you feel like discussing it) would you then opt to continue presenting male? it seems as though you are reaping the benefits of transition, while castigating those who would go down the same path.

     
    • markangelo64

      September 29, 2015 at 2:42 am

      because once you transition, remove your ovaries, and you have done all the damage to yourself, you can’t go back, hence why I am warning others

       
      • Turtle Beanz

        September 29, 2015 at 2:48 am

        but you could certainly wear women’s clothing. you could stop taking T if you are taking T. you could do everything possible to present female, as you now believe you are. There are many AFAB people who lose female reproductive organs and breasts and hair — and do not go about looking like men. I don’t think you have made a clear case for why you would think it is okay to continue reaping the benefits of transition while attacking others who seek transition.

        and back to the picture — you are the woman who appears male. who is the other person? are you part of a trans couple who both regret transition so much that they do nothing to reverse the results of transition — not even so much as a wardrobe change/exchange?

        how convenient that would be to just hate everything about (other people’s) transitions and hold tight to your own.

         
      • oopster74

        September 29, 2015 at 8:07 am

        Plenty of women don’t have ovaries. I don’t have ovaries, I still present as female. I know T will deepen your voice, but some women have deep voices. If you’ve gone as far as you say, then you’ve had plenty of time and opportunity to press the stop button. Seeing as you’ve had your ovaries removed, I’m going to assume that’s a good few years, as you don’t just walk into hospital one sex and walk out a few hours later as the opposite.

        I’m sorry that you believe you’ve made the wrong choices in life, but they were choices you were free to make.

         
    • markangelo64

      September 29, 2015 at 2:48 am

      I am a woman, and I say it all the time, even my facebook gender identity says so. Woman come in all shapes, sizes and looks. I am just a masculine one now due to what I did to my body.

       
      • Turtle Beanz

        September 29, 2015 at 2:55 am

        i mean, you appear to be presenting male. it’s only one picture. and certainly some women do wear suits and ties and rectangular frame glasses.

        i have nothing to say about anyone transitioning, re-transitioning, none of it.

        but you appear to be presenting male. you appear to have had a very successful transition and i would think you could figure out how to present female(r) (whatever that is) if you were so inclined.

        maybe what works for you works for you. maybe other things work for others. maybe it’s easier to say that it really sucks to have done this but stick with it — when you could undo a great deal of it, starting with the suit and tie.

        did you come from a religious perspective when you decided to renounce your gender choice? do you think god will reject you if you acknowledge presenting male on purpose? do you feel that you transitioned bc of some liberal agenda? did a doctor corner you and force surgery on you — bc i know a lot of people who are working mighty hard at getting surgery and can’t swing it. did your mother make you do it because she thought it would be so much nice to have a son?

        would appreciate any answers you feel comfortable giving.

         
      • Turtle Beanz

        September 29, 2015 at 3:23 am

        Your Facebook pronoun seems to be They. Not she. Must be nice to get to fully transition and then impress God by repudiating transition and berating those who have not yet had the benefit of the medical care you have received. How about She/Her pronouns and quit taking T.

         
      • lynnacummings

        September 29, 2015 at 4:22 am

        This is truly not a matter of how we present ourselves as male or female, we know what our sex is. Mark and I just want people to know that they can be who they want to be. Don’t hurt yourself to try and change your sex. Your sex is set, your gender expression is open to interpretation.

         
    • markangelo64

      September 29, 2015 at 2:50 am

      if children were allowed to express without having to fit into a gender box, things would be a hell of a lot easier than doing what we do to ourselves, all to please society.

       
      • Turtle Beanz

        September 29, 2015 at 3:02 am

        yeah, that’s what i thought too. that’s what i hoped. i thought gender was a construct and if you knocked down the constructs and let people just be, it would be great. that does not seem to work for a lot of trans people i’ve spoken with. i am willing to believe them.

        i personally believe that gender is very personal and very clear to individuals. i think we know where we belong on the spectrum. i believe it is subtle and that we feel clearly when we have gone even a little too far to the left or right of the spectrum. i think we make adjustments — like some women suddenly adding lipstick and earrings when they cut their hair short.

        i think we know. and i think it is extraordinarily rare for somebody to go to the lengths you went to and then decide it was all a big mistake.

        and i think you are still presenting male, at least in that picture. and that medical transition is not irrevocable and responsible for you choosing to wear a suit and tie.

        if you are going to reap the benefits of transition, perhaps it would make sense to let others live as makes sense to them.

         
      • artguy

        September 29, 2015 at 3:02 am

        Hi Mark, Are you making an attempt to stay in touch with and open to what youth are experiencing these days? My perception is that there is more and more room to move beyond the binary, and that young folks in particular are not really trying to please society as you state. Sure, trans youth wrestles with what it means to express masculinity or femininity, perhaps more than cisgendered folks do, but that is within a normal scope of exploration. I understand that many have felt trapped in the binary in a wide range of ways over the years, and continue to do so, but I think that is an area where things are changing for the better. I can’t read what you’re saying here without hearing that you are transposing (no pun intended) your own circumstances and disappointments onto a whole new generation, which may now see a different set of options from those you encountered Please remain open to other people’s experiences! This is something we all must do…

         
  27. Turtle Beanz

    September 29, 2015 at 3:12 am

    i am so confused, Markangelo64. are you (and your partner?) continuing taking cross hormones while you berate others for transitioning?

    are you suggesting that you are just stuck with T?

    what about all the women with hysterectomies and mastectomies for medical reasons who don’t start taking T, throw up their hands and say, “oops! now i have to be a man, darn it!”

     
    • Turtle Beanz

      September 29, 2015 at 3:14 am

      Markangelo64, Are you somehow obliged to keep a typically male name? Was your transition so damaging that it precludes going to a court house and changing your name? Does god make dispensations for people who have already transitioned once?

       
      • markangelo64

        September 29, 2015 at 4:21 am

        I am gender variant, I know what my biology is, and no I am not religious so why continue to bring God into the equation? Gender is not something you go swap and buy at the store as what the trans community is trying to do and trying to force others to see what they “feel”.

        Its not a matter of mistake, its a matter of waking up to facts, and realizing how bizarre this whole thing truly is. How I present is how I have always felt, except now I am stuck with the changes. You have no clue, and these kids that are being transed so early will be furious as they grow into adult hood and now sterilized, and mentally hurt. You don’t know the many people that email us thanking us for speaking up against these crazy agenda. The reason you are confused is because you want to fit into the gender binary, and the evolution is set to break those boxes and let people be.

        As far as the name, I changed it legally 12 years ago, it’s a reminder of why one should just express and not take the actions many take thinking it solves anything. De transitioning is not easy, costly and blows your mind. Why do you think we stress the fact that people should not transition. Listen, I could care less what you think or say. We will bring this train down, and there are many in line who are willing to do so all for the health and well being of the future generation that are being coursed by mad scientist and eugenics.

         
      • markangelo64

        September 29, 2015 at 4:34 am

        I at least am not delusional enough as many in this community are to think I am a man. These young woman are being destroyed, just like an anorexic gets destroyed chasing their body dysmorphia till they die.

         
      • markangelo64

        September 29, 2015 at 4:43 am

        presenting femaler? Lol, you see you are part of the problem, how does one need to present? I am me, I wore a suit on the day of my wedding. Lynna and I got married. Many women wear suits, many women wear pants, men should be allowed to wear what they want as well. Do you not see the problem here, you yourself are selling the gender stereotype and telling me how I should present.

        I am spiritual, God has nothing to do with my choices, I am my own creator God. I make my own decisions based on me, not on some invisible man in the sky.

         
    • markangelo64

      September 29, 2015 at 4:33 am

      Turtle Beanz, I have a condition called Progestin induced verilization, I am allergic to estrogen, it nearly killed me, I have to take T at therapeutic doses or I can get sick and die. I don’t quite understand your plight here. Do you think it is healthy for a child to wear a fake penis, a dildo, and to pretend they are a man? Do you think that the answer to a masculine female is to chop her breast off, and mutilate their body? We are not the enemies here nor do we have all the answers, but I can tell you this, this agenda is wrong and needs to be stoped.

       
  28. markangelo64

    September 29, 2015 at 4:23 am

    Artguy, this agenda will destroy the youth, let them be open to express who they are without taking the dangerous drugs and doing the dangerous procedures. They are gender variant and should be proud of that.

     
  29. markangelo64

    September 29, 2015 at 4:59 am

    The bottom line here is biology cannot be changed. Hormones, blockers and the surgeries that are required for cosmetic changes which is all it is, have ramifications. Those of us and there are many, some too afraid to come out and get the treatment we get, are warning others about what happens after 12 plus years into this. Don’t believe me or Lynna, listen to the interviews we have done.

    These kids are being used as guinea pigs, I don’t know about you, but I would not let my child be a live rat. But hey, you don’t have to listen do as you wish, in the end, when it all comes crashing down, don’t say we didnt warn you.

     
    • oopster74

      September 29, 2015 at 8:57 am

      Well Ive lived as female for just over 16 years now without regret, but I was sensible in knowing what to expect. Surgery was never the be all and end all for me, but it helped me feel more comfortable with myself. Am I fully female? No, and I accept that. My body is as female as current medical knowledge can make it. The bottom line is, I’m happy being me. Yeah I have issues and problems I have to deal with on a daily basis, but tell me someone in the world that doesn’t. Tell your story Mark, if it can stop someone going down the wrong path them that’s good, and if it can help someone go down the right path (whatever path that is), then that’s good too. Some things are reversible, some aren’t.

       
      • markangelo64

        September 29, 2015 at 5:35 pm

        The problem I see with this whole gender dysphoria transing train is that people think their lives will be better by escaping and being someone else. The majority of trans folks have anxiety, OCD, Personality Disorders, lack of coping skills, ADHD, autism, and many more neurological impairments. Gender is not the issues, so when gender is changed and the issues are still there, then what?

        In reality there are so many more problems and the so called gender specialists are not helping one bit. Now as adults hey we mess up and we must deal with it, but pushing this on kids is disastrous. Being on puberty blockers, cross sex hormones at such a young age will lead to major complications in the long run, not to mention exacerbated mental problems. No one is looking at the bigger picture here.

         
      • oopster74

        September 29, 2015 at 6:19 pm

        Mark – NO ONE IS PUSHING ANYTHING ONTO KIDS!!! The kids themselves are saying what they want. You tray putting an 8 year old boy in a dress, it’s not going to happen. Please don’t buy in the terf and religious right bullshit. The terfs see trans people as a threat to their view of feminism and that we are an easy target. The religious right are generally sheep. I’m sorry things didn’t work out for you, but everyone is different.

         
      • markangelo64

        September 29, 2015 at 7:03 pm

        oopster74, those of us who did not have the internet lived life as either masculine females or feminine males. The internet and social media has created this monster. The kids are being pushed to do this its everywhere and many parents whom don’t want a feminine boy or masculine girl, will push for this. You shouldnt have to hide who you are, taking on a gender because you feel like a girl or a boy is not the answer.

        What didnt work out for me? Lol I am the picture of an alpha male, my transition couldnt have been better, but guess what, your conscious after years of living this lie over takes your delusion.

        a woman can’t be a man, nor can a man be a woman. That is the bottom line here. Truth is truth.

         
      • oopster74

        September 29, 2015 at 7:07 pm

        Erm, I was never all that feminine anyway, I worked over time that I was trans without the internet. You talk like being trans is a recent thing since the Internet appeared, well let me tell you there have been trans people since there’s been people. It’s only the last century that we’ve been able to get medical treatment, and only in the last 70 something years that the greater populous has been aware of us.

         
      • markangelo64

        September 29, 2015 at 7:48 pm

        people have been expressing different gender expressions since the beginning of time the medicalization of this is recent and very disturbing to say the least. Two Spirited folks have always been, this craze is recent. People lived, now people are obsessed with this from young to middle age crisis. It is a disorder, you may want to check out some of my shows on our you tube channel we have some really great interviews. RealTalk w.the Cummings.

         
      • oopster74

        September 29, 2015 at 8:01 pm

        I know who and what I am and I’m happy enough with my life, so I’ll pass.

         
  30. Graeme

    September 29, 2015 at 9:49 am

    Lots of wonderful, enlightened and understanding comments here..for those who are not so understanding of this blog..well..Sine Rose..your fight against “feeding into children’s mental illness’..? i ask the question of you..this mother is brave enough to put her story and that of her son out into the world..are you brave enough to disclose whether you have been the parent of a “mentally unhealthy” child or not?
    I would suggest you have quite a few people in your life, and likely people close to you, who have issues they are dealing with that you would have no clue about..people develop very good masks to hide differences from the world…especially when they feel they would be misunderstood. I am the parent of a child who has battled six different mental illnesses..fortunately gender issues have not been part of that.
    “Pandering to mentally ill people”? Really, pandering?? The first step you take as a parent of a child YOU would term as “mentally unhealthy” is to try to help your child survive..sometimes that can be incredibly difficult in itself. And they cannot survive unless they are true to themselves..and you as a parent both recognise and support them in that..there is NO EASY ROAD for a parent of a child who sits outside the (you would be surprised how narrow) little spectrum of “mentally healthy” that you stand by. The “easy road” is to tell the depressed child to cheer up, the possibly “gay child” to man up or the “transgender child” that they are not mentally healthy and should get help…’depressed’, ‘gay’ and “transgender”..how many types of “mental unhealthiness” is there amongst these three things? 30 years ago most people would have claimed all three..would be interested to know if Sine Rose would still be claiming 3 mental illnesses from that example..or is it just 2 now? In 30 years time, thankfully, there will be one only on that list that is. And hopefully much much sooner than that.
    My daughter has lost six of her friends to suicide..six..there was a transgender child in that list, the other 5 you would describe as “mentally unhealthy”..what they all had in common was they were all living away from home..they all had parents who struggled to understand, to accept..to take the hard road.
    The next steps as a parent in this situation is to gain an understanding and supportive network around their child..to help them to go beyond just ‘surviving’. Shouldnt all children have the right, when they are hurting no-one else, to be true to themselves? And to be loved and valued for it? The difference being loved and valued for who they are makes to a child..is huge..huge!
    The writer of this article takes the “hard road” for their child..pushes through to understand, to support, and to understand there is actually nothing “wrong” with their child..do you think when she had children she would ever think she would be exploring “stand to pee devices”?? Of course not!
    But she goes the hard yards for her child..and she even goes beyond that in sharing her experiences to a world that can be very narrow and dismissive and risks her being the target of ignorant and abusive people…
    This mother has a child who knows how much she loves him, who knows they have a home where they are loved and supported and recognised for who they know they are..a mother who feels proud of her son, and why wouldnt she be? There is so much love expressed in her articles. I am glad there are so many who are recognising that amongst the haters and ignorant who have clearly never walked a mile in her shoes

     
    • Ando girondo

      September 29, 2015 at 10:39 am

      This trans craziness is gonna stuff up some healthy kids…this from a person that suffered ans still to some extend sex dysphoria. ..

       
    • markangelo64

      September 29, 2015 at 5:39 pm

      Loving your child does not mean feeding into every whim and wants the child might have. This is very serious, children go through many stages and with all this media attention and social media interaction these young teens are being influenced down the wrong path.

      Teach your child to be kind, humble, accepting, loving and to unconditionally accept themselves as they are. Make them strong in character so they can be who they are without having to fit the little gender box that society wants us all to be in. So what if she is masculine, it may not look nice to others but the more people stand up and be who they are the more we educate society.

      Be a loving parent, but be rational and firm, trans teens are committing suicide even after being allowed to be who they think they are, its a neurological condition one that need better care and attention, not just by saying you are a different gender and pumping dangerous drugs and procedures that will sterilize your child and give them greater mental issues.

       
      • oopster74

        September 29, 2015 at 6:31 pm

        And what about us that didn’t have the Internet? The kids that grew up in the 80’s? I wish I’d had a resource like the Internet when I was growing up, maybe I’d have been able to get the information and support that I lacked, and maybe I would have had the courage to tell my parents when I was a child how I was feeling and not grow up feeling that I had to hide who I was.

         
      • markangelo64

        September 29, 2015 at 7:33 pm

        also what is it with the constant TERF intimidation word usage? That is just a ploy trans folks use in attempts to shame people for having a different belief. People who are not religious or TERFS have an opinion and realize that biology can’t be changed. Express away but don’t tell people that because they feel they where born in the wrong body that they are the opposite gender they were born as.

         
      • oopster74

        September 29, 2015 at 7:35 pm

        A lot of the anti-trans comments on this blog are from terfs (Trans Excluding Radical Feminists).

         
      • Ando girondo

        September 30, 2015 at 11:24 am

        I really respect you mark…i have been reading about you a loy lately. .. I been a person that detransitioned have been called terf. …i realized that even 10 years ago i was basically sold transition as a cure…when its not .. even in Australia ive seen psychiatrists pushing this…. there has hardly been any research into therapy. ..look at medical journals compare them to any other affliction under the same section and see the difference. .. have a good day Mark …blessings

         
      • Turtle Beanz

        October 3, 2015 at 2:25 am

        Markangelo64, do you happen to have any children?

        You seem to be so very full of wisdom about how to raise young people.

        Might this have something to do with not having any of your own?

         
      • Mark Angelo Cummings

        October 3, 2015 at 5:29 am

        I am an Occupational Therapist well versed in pediatrics, dealing from physical rehab to mental development abnormal to normal. I am quite equipped to provide information on the nervous system, child psychology and then some. No I never had any children of my own, thank God, because I would not have wanted to expose them, as many trans parents do, to this crazy situation. But I did raise my siblings since my mother had them 8 years apart.

        I also was the one that brought Jazz Jennings to the picture, and have met with and interviewed many trans kids and their parents. Oh and most of all, I have common sense to know that children change their minds just like they change clothing. One minute they want to be a dinosaur while the next a monkey. Children development is rather interesting and what we are seeing today is a product of excess chemicals, lack of parenting skills and a over zealous media platform as well as social media craze that is creating this. Mark my words it will back fire.

        http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/see-dick-be-jane-6307520

         
      • oopster74

        October 3, 2015 at 5:51 am

        Erm, no. These reasons you’ve listed may explain some people, but not all. Not the native Americans that were trans, not the people who we now might call cross dressers in Victorian times, not countless other people we’d call trans.

        This isn’t a media fad that’s just took off, we simply know more about it than we used to and it’s only the past 70 or so years we’ve had medical options to help.

        Things didn’t work out for you Marko, they did for me, that have for lots of my friends who are trans. We don’t like in a “one size fits all” world, so why do you think we do?

         
      • Mark Angelo Cummings

        October 3, 2015 at 5:58 am

        The Native Americans where two spirited, did not take cross hormones, androgen blockers and definitely did not mutilate their bodies, sorry cant use them or intersex people to sell your product. This is a media fad, people have been gender variant since the beginning of time, the difference now is the madness that is transpiring. Everything has worked out for me. Do you see what I look like, how I live my life. I am telling truth, the truth that all of you hide to fulfill your fantasies, and sexual needs. This whole thing now has taken a sexual turn. You can deny it all you want, but truth is truth, and we are working with professionals to make sure this truth comes out. Just wait and see what is in store.

         
      • oopster74

        October 3, 2015 at 6:00 am

        You’re just not listening to other people’s views Mark, so sorry, I’m not going to waste anymore of my time with you.

         
  31. markangelo64

    September 29, 2015 at 7:05 pm

    Nothing went wrong with my transition for those who keep trying to make it out to be that I am talking against this because something happened. I am legally a male, I legally married to Lynna. I am a professional, I have done everything I would want to do in my life. But there is such a thing as a conscious, an inner voice that tells you, hey you are not a man, you are an imposter. It takes years to hear this voice but we all hear it at one point or another.

     
  32. markangelo64

    September 29, 2015 at 7:53 pm

    oh please, men have been messing with woman for centuries, now trans folks made up a new word TERF, and they throw it around in attempt to shut people up. Women have a right to not want trans women in their spaces. Women are concerned about many of the things going on in this community, so now they are being made out to be monsters, because they are not singing the praises of the the Trans females? People are entitled to their views and opinion, this doesnt make them monsters.

     
  33. sharonredwood

    September 29, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    To access this site, it asks if you are 18 or older. Then, it sells “packers” (silicone penis) for girls age 4 to 8. No, nothing creepy about this at all. You really can’t see how crazy you have become. What parent would buy something online to put in their child’s underwear next to the child’s skin. I can’t believe this level of crazy.

    By the way, I’m way over age 18.

     
    • oopster74

      September 29, 2015 at 10:31 pm

      That’s a standard disclaimer for certain products which you already know. These will be bought by the parents of under 18’s, and not the under 18’s themselves.

       
      • markangelo64

        September 29, 2015 at 10:47 pm

        Packers are an artificial penis, a dildo, use to make people think you have a bulge. This is not normal in any account. A girl does not have a penis, and just as people use dildos to pretend they have a phallus, packing has the same connotation. I don’t understand how people can’t see how wrong this is in all levels. Genitals are sexual in nature. Women tend to look at mens bulges, as well as gay men. To not see that this is not as innocent as the community is making it out to be is disturbing. http://www.ftmguide.org/packinghard.html

         
      • oopster74

        September 29, 2015 at 11:03 pm

        I know someone who put gel in condoms to give him the sense / feel / look in his pants, I don’t think he’d be able to do what you’re suggesting with that. If these things are helping their users feel better, then good. If you’re staring at someone else’s crotch and you’re not a dwarf or a wheelchair user, then stop perving on other people for gods sake.

         
  34. Mark Angelo Cummings

    September 30, 2015 at 6:05 pm

    Ah yes the famous intimidating word, sort of like the Terrorist word that Bush and his clones used to take away much of our freedoms, its not working. Men will continue to use their political clout and tactics even when they claim to be women. So what if whom you claim as Terf are the enlighten ones, and the trans are the evil doers?

    Who is intimidating who and being rude to who, just because I see truth, and that is you are a man and I am woman, doesnt mean I have no respect. I respect your expression as I do mine, but I respect women enough to not take away their identity to fall for someone’s “feel”.

     
  35. Listen Up

    October 6, 2015 at 1:01 am

    Hey Mark, I reckon the mess that you’ve made of this blog is like going into someone’s house, eating everything in the fridge, sleeping in all the beds, but not bothering to talk to the owner. This is Jo and Jeremy’s “house” and you’re shitting everywhere! Mate, how about you read everything on the blog, and then come up with a good question for Jo, or something you’d like to learn more about. I would suggest that to start off that you find out about something about Australian cultures, genders, literature, music, geography, health services and systems, governments and laws. Australia is not actually the US, even if it it sometimes seems getting that way. Then you might be qualified to have an opinion. Until then, you’re just pissing into the wind. Must have a lot of time on your hands.

     
    • Mark Angelo Cummings

      October 6, 2015 at 2:28 am

      Hey Jo, first of all this blog’s entry was brought to my attention, and as blogs go they are public, unless you disable comments and make them private, hence not your house but a public hangout. I personally have no interest in reading a blog that is in my opinion, a danger to future youth and will create further Munchausen by Proxy mom’s to come out of the wood work, so pardon me if I pass on the offer.

      As far as Australian Culture goes, I am quite verse on your culture have many friend who live in your beautiful country, have interviewed lots of trans people from your vicinity, who are a bit more hospitable and with a kinder tongue than yours. But nonetheless, what does knowing about your culture have to do with the price of beans? I am quite aware of trans issues and these issues are the same across the world, same story line, same MBP mothers, no different, you are not special at all.

      As far as time goes, this is what I do for a living, my wife and I host Transition Radio, now known as TRTV’s RealTalk W/ The Cummings. We are the other voice, the voice that will bring some sanity to this craziness. I once advocated for the community but now that I see where this train wreck is heading, I along with my beloved wife will shine a bright light on this matter. Any ways, hope your day goes well.

       
      • curiousmother

        October 6, 2015 at 4:55 am

        Hmmm. So you are spending a lot of time on a blog that you know nothing about, by a writer that you know nothing about, who comes from a country that you’ve decided is exactly the same as your own, as far as transgender issues go, despite having different laws, health practices, government regulation etc etc etc to the US. Had you bothered to find out, for instance, that Jeremy, the subject of this blog, didn’t begin transitioning until 18? I guess not, because you’ve already professed to have no interest in transgender stories (except your own) because they’re ‘all the same’, despite the fact that they come from hundreds of different countries, cultures and languages. You want to listen to none of them, but you think we should listen to you?

         
      • Mark Angelo Cummings

        October 6, 2015 at 5:52 am

        @curiousmother the point here is that it is wrong to promote prosthetics to minors, no matter what country you are from. Children who are gender variant have no need to wear dildos, yes that is what they are, who in the world puts this on their children, people with issues that’s who, whether you are from Australia or Japan.